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IS THERE MALE AND FEMALE IN HEAVEN?PART ONE:WHAT GENDER IS JESUS NOW ?
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I was watching Don Paul's prophet.tv program on the internet and noticed he was doing some counseling about sex. He made the remark that there would be no male of female in heaven. A sexless heaven. Well, I wrote to him about that, and shared some Bible verses and my opinion.
On his show he not only misquoted me, sarcastically mocked me, and rejected what I said and the verses I sent to him along with some hurting and cutting remarks, but also LIED about some of the things I wrote to him about.

You can see the program yourself, somewhere around the middle of the show...here..the Sept 28th program
http://www.prophet.tv/network/live.html
or here on You Tube...
http://jp.youtube.com/prophettv

AND YOU CAN READ MY EMAIL TO HIM AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE

So since he won't listen to any more of my E-mails, and only wants to communicate with those who are sending him money, I will have to sock it to him here on my own site and counter his silly sexless E.T.'s in heaven doctrine.
DP, let's be a little more "Christian " about this and stop with the silly sarcasms, which are not very conducive to spiritual maturity.


IF THERE IS MALE IN FEMALE IN HEAVEN THEN THERE MUST BE SEX IN HEAVEN. This is a dilemma for the Church. The majority of Church leaders and religionists have decided to avoid the whole subject by declaring that there is no make or female in Heaven, only sexless beings

Where do they get that from? Well, usually they take it from two places in scripture. One place where Jesus says that there is no marriage in heaven, and that we will be like the angels of God, meaning that the angels are sexless.
The only accounts of this are :
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Luk 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Luk 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
So what do we know from what Jesus said here? They there are no marriage ceremonies in heaven, and there are no institutions called marriage in heaven, and that we will become "as" the angels.
It does not say here that there will not be any males or females in heaven.
The other from Galatians 3:28 where it says : Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus......and Paul says almost exactly the same thing in Collossians, but omits the male and female part.
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond [nor] free: but Christ [is] all, and in all.

Only the "male or female" part of this verse is taken out of context and quoted to mean that there are no males or females in heaven. As you can see, that is a misquote as they fail to quote the first part of the verse that talks about Jew or Greek, bond or free, but they only quote the "male or female " part to justify their doctrine of a sexless heaven.

If there is no male or female in the spirit world, then how did the sons of God have sex with the daughters of men? Religious people don't like to talk about that.
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

Where did the "sons of God", which were the fallen angels, get their male parts from? They avoid that subject too.

They also made very certain when they translated the Bible that they did not leave too many references to females in there. They made sure they translated the female forms of the verbs to male. So that is why you will mostly find male forms in the King James version of the Bible, so different from the original Hebrew and Greek.

Well, the Bible says that when God made Adam and Eve, and Jesus repeats it in the Gospels, that He made them male and female, after His own image...but wait! It says, Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

"Let US make man in OUR IMAGE AFTER OUR LIKENESS"
"So God created man "IN HIS OWN IMAGE.....IN THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED HE HIM....MALE AND FEMALE CREATED HE THEM."
You see, I am even using the conservative and religious King James Version here, for those of you who have not been weaned from it yet and will not believe any Bible verses unless it is quoted from it.

In fact even people who believe the King James Version is the only inspired Word of God have a hard time believing a lot of what it says!

Anyway, that is what the King James Version says. In fact that is what most , if not ALL translations say.

Were we not created after the image of God? did not God create us after His image? Does it not say "Let US"? and not "let me"?
Does it not say after OUR image and after OUR likeness? "male and female"? I mean it does say that doesn't it? No matter how you look at it that is what it says.

So you either have to believe that God didn't really mean what He said there, or that He DID really create man out of His own image, male and female. That would mean that the image of God is both male and female. Now how could that be? Does that mean that God is only one creature and is made up of both male and female characteristics, in which case would be bi-sexual?

Or does it mean, "US" when He said "US" that there was more than one person there at creation besides God Almighty, the Father, and Jesus the Word, both males?

If you were to say to your wife, "let us make children after our own image and likeness. Let's make a girl and a boy." That would mean that there would have to be a male and a female couple there in order for the girl and boy to have been made after their image. If there were only males present, you could not produce children, only clone them, and they would not be male and female, only male!

Well, no one has cloned a human yet as far as I know! There are sure a lot of fantasy movies about it, though.

You see, when you start acknowledging sex, and God, those two together, it makes the religionists uncomfortable, because many religious people today still believe that Adam and Eve's sin was to have sex before they were married. Or some other sexual sin. It had to do with sex and therefore sex is of the devil and will be done away with in heaven.

Well, if that is so, then maybe in heaven we won't have any eyes or mouths either , because it says "she saw that the tree was good for food" and a lot of people sin with their eyes and mouths today. In fact why not go all the way and say that people sin with their ears and hands and mind too? and go places they should not go with their feet?

So maybe in heaven we will have no sexual parts, no eyes, no ears, no legs and arms, no mouth, and no mind! You see how ridiculous it gets? once you start saying things like there will be no sexual parts in heaven because of sexual sin, you have to go all the way and completely wipe out every member of the body that has sinned.

That is NOT what Jesus meant when He died for our sins!

What is Jesus? I know who Jesus is, but WHAT is Jesus? Is He male or female? Jesus was born into this world as a male. He grew up and was a man. He died as a man, and he rose from the dead as a man. He ascended into heaven as a man and is STILL a man. So what people are saying is that Jesus is going to be the only one is heaven with sexual organs. Or did He leave them at the gates of heaven on His way in?

So we know that Jesus rose from the dead in His body. He did not change into a spirit-only being. He said " a spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see" So we know that when Jesus rose from the dead He had a full, complete body, with flesh and bones, and could even eat.
He had hands, and feet, eyes and ears too! What else did He have? You mean When Jesus rose from the dead He came back to life in His body without sexual organs?

OK, here is a real shocker for some. in 1 Corinthians 13 it says:
1Cr 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

In the ESV(English Standard Version) which I prefer, it says:
For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

Maybe I will stop using the namby pamby King James Version that I have been weaned from, and use the meatier and more radical and accurate , and literal ESV Bible from now. It says...now we are seeing DIMLY as in a mirror. (The mirrors in those days were rather dull and dim) BUT...THEN....(when? when we see Jesus) Face to Face! Face to face! So at least we all know by this verse that we will have some kind of faces in heaven. Isn't that a relief?Whew! Just a joke! Ha ha.

But then look at what it says here: Now....I know in PART....(this word "know is the Greek word, ginosko, defined as
(1) to learn to know, come to know, get a knowledge of perceive, feel
a) to become known
2) to know, understand, perceive, have knowledge of
a) to understand
b) to know
3) Jewish idiom for sexual intercourse between a man and a woman
4) to become acquainted with, to know

So it is all these things, and especially take note of number 3, a Jewish idiom for sexual relations. So now we know Jesus or are having an intimate relationship with Him in part. But THEN we will KNOW even as we are KNOWN now. We will know, and be known the same as we are now known in this world.

So that should answer the question many people who claim to know God ask. "When we get to heaven will we recognize each other?"
You should not be worrying about that anymore. This verse, and others, confirm that you will know as you are known.

So you can be comforted to know that not only will you have a FACE in heaven, but also KNOWLEDGE, a MIND to know things, a MEMORY, and eyes to be able to recognize other people!

NOW HERE IS ANOTHER SHOCKER FOR RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

The Spirit of God is referred to as Wisdom, and is personified as a woman in the book of Proverbs. Wherever the Hebrew word "rauch" is used it is in the female form. Well, in heaven, then, if there is no male and female, I guess no one will speak Hebrew, in fact, we won't be using the words "he, she, hers, his, or him, her, boy, girl, man, woman, male, female, sex, sexual, birth, born, baby, child, and any word that has anything to do with sex or male and female. They just won't exist right? Well....wait a minute here....what did Jesus say here....

Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
Mar 10:14 But when Jesus saw [it], he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Luk 18:16 But Jesus called them [unto him], and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

Jesus had children close to Him, and was spending time with them. I take that to mean both boys and girls. Now Jesus rebuked His disciples and said something absolutely awesome here....in the ESV:Lk 18:16 But Jesus called them to him, saying, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God.
Mark 10:14:But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, “Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God.
Mat 19:14: but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.”

So Jesus, right there with the children, the boys and girls, makes a statement that the kingdom of God belongs to them. Why did not Jesus bother to tell the children there and his disciples "sorry, kids, but if you are to inherit the Kingdom of God you will no longer be able to be boys and girls."
Can you imagine the trauma and confusion that would have caused? That would have sounded like Jesus was preaching Buddhism or Hinduism or some other pagan religions.
Jesus also promises we will receive "A hundred fold" and uses the terms that refer to male and female.
Mar 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
Mar 10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

This life and in the world to come....eternal life! All that and heaven too!

Now let's get back to the point of the argument here, and why I call it an argument is because I e-mailed a certain ministry on this because I heard Don Paul on Prophet.tv exhorting about there being no male or female in heaven. No sex in heaven...and he used the same two passages I quote above, in Mat 22:30, about there being no marriage in heaven and we will be like the angels...and I wrote to him about it to correct his mistaken view of this, and he mocked me sarcastically on his internet show, lied about me, made a few other false statements saying that I said things and implied things that I did not, saying that he was closer to the Lord , and that I was unteachable, and Jesus was giving him the answer for me through him, and that I only want to have 21 virgins in heaven and all that crap.

I previously thought he was a man of God, and a Christian. But to be a Christian you have to show some Christian virtues and not mock sarcastically people who don't believe the same as you do. So this is why I am addressing this here...and using scripture to back me up.

I e-mailed him again, but got a reply saying that they do not want to argue doctrine and to keep it short, and they will read my email only if I become a supporter of their work, a partner, and send money to help support what they are doing to fight the demons in Hollywood.

So this is the only place I can sock it to him and counter that false doctrine of devils that there is no male and female in heaven. On my own site, my own territory here, as he will not answer any more of my questions, nor will he acknowledge the scriptures I have presented to him from his
King James Version of the Bible.

People may not think this is important, but when you think about Salvation and what it means, having eternal life , entering into an eternal relationship with the Lord forever, and being born again...it can have awesome repercussions.

Especially if you die and wake up in the presence of the Lord, and you look down and you find you are no longer a male! You look down again and you realize that you are no longer female either! You are standing in a long line of naked bodies waiting to be judged...and you look around
and all you see are faces with no eyes, no mouths, no ears, and by the looks of them you cannot tell if they are male of female!

But that's ok because you have eternal life. Eternal life to do what and be what? Be with Jesus , who is in Heaven already sitting at the right hand of God in His body. Having been raised from the dead, and in His full body, with all of His male characteristics, and there you are with no male or female characteristics!

Now here is another verse that counters that silly perverted religious idea! People who want to mock God's wonderful beautiful creation, here is where the Word of God mocks your silly concept of heaven.

1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And in the ESV it says: Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.

Let me emphasize that this is saying WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM....like who? Like Jesus! We shall be like Him, and Jesus is right now in heaven in His full body as He was on earth after he was raised from the dead! With all of his characteristics as He was on Earth , all of His 33 years here on Earth and as He died and like He was after He rose from the dead, and just as He was after He ascended into heaven and as He is NOW too!

SO what does that mean? "WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM FOR WE SHALL SEE HIM AS HE IS" We will see Jesus as He is now, in heaven, in His full body with all of His members just like He was on earth, and WE WILL BE JUST LIKE HE IS!

WE WILL BE THERE WITH JESUS JUST LIKE HE IS, and not only AS the angels, as Jesus said, but better than the angels! Because we will be just like JESUS! Even the angels are not just like Jesus , but we will be. To prove that just read the whole book of Hebrews which talks about how much better Jesus is than the angels and how much better we will be than the angels.

People who don't really know their Bible's or got taught or mentored by people who do not know their Bibles can come to some really crazy conclusions of heaven. They can come up with some silly concepts that are unscriptural and unnatural. Not God's way of doing things.

Now some people may criticize and accuse like DP did and say "Oh you are saying that heaven is going to be like one big orgy?" No, of course not! Only people who don't really know God and His love would ask a silly question like that. Those who know God and His unconditional love and grace are so in love with Jesus that of course they would not resort to the fleshly works and sins of the earth in heaven.

Your fleshly mind cannot even begin to grasp the purity that is in heaven. The purity that is in God's heart. People who think like that are coming to those conclusions based on what their carnal mind is telling them, not what God's Word says.

When you want to teach a doctrine, you have to cover everything the Bible has to say about a subject, not just quote one or two verses like DP does, and other so called Bible teachers. False teachers in the last days...there are whole web sites dedicated to exposing them...but even some of those are too negative and are attacking ministries that are doing a lot of good.

Well, that is not the end of that subject either because there is certainly a whole lot more in the Bible to consider regarding what we have been talking about here, namely , male and female in heaven.

I hope to cover a lot more in PART TWO entitled "FULL SALVATION:WHAT IS IT?"


E-MAIL FROM ME TO DP OF PROPHET.TV

Hi, DP. I watch your show and can pretty much agree with most of what you say, but there was one thing I heard you say that I absolutely do not agree with. Sorry , but you cannot convince me that there is no male of female in heaven.
Paul said there was no male or female in Christ Jesus, meaning that we are equal in the Lord's eyes, and that man is not supposed to lord it over woman and treat them like slaves or a lower class of beings, that's all.
The gifts of the Spirit are also equally distributed to men and women alike, but I do not agree with using that verse to say that there is no male or female in heaven.

If that is so then what is Jesus now? He was resurrected in his own body, still had the scars, the looks, his male body, but did He lose his penis when He ascended into heaven?

What about Mary His mother? and Mary Magdalene? Did they change into neuter gender upon their arrival in heaven? The man standing next to John the revelator, the people shown from all nations and kindreds and tongues?
Jesus did say there would be no marriage ceremonies in heaven, but He never said there would be no couples.
He said we would be like the angels. Well, there were angels who came down in Genesis who had sex with the daughters of men......now how could they have had sex if they were not male?

If there is no male or female in heaven then how could God make us in His (note the gender) image?

What you have I am afraid is some old anti-sex church doctrine created to put more religion in people's minds.
I am surprised that you would actually teach this false doctrine as fact when there isn't anything in the Bible to back it up, only interpretation, reading between the lines.

I would like to take the opportunity to back this truth up with Bible verses here, thanks for your time, and get away from that false doctrine. Who taught you that anyway?
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Gen 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female.
Gen 7:3 Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
Gen 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
Gen 7:16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made [them] at the beginning made them male and female,
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Luk 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;)
The bride of Christ in Revelations, is , by the way, female and was seen by John in the heavens, the woman in Revelations 12 was symbolic, but it was seen in heaven, as was the female "whore" .

These are God's eternal symbolisms, which He uses to express eternal truths. No, DP. get away from that teaching. God is not going to wipe out the male and female sexes and have some kind of trans-sexual, or non-sexual ET being in heaven. We might as well just join the rest of the non sexual aliens in their UFOs if thats the case!

No, DP, the creation of God of the sexes is eternal, and there are even families in heaven. God even talks about the spirit of wisdom in Proverbs 8 as being female. Many Catholics and protestants too even believe that the Holy Spirit is female. I'm not making a statement about that . but I would not rule out the possibilities (unless you only go by the KJV which is chock full of middle age Arch Bishop religious doctrine and bad theology, mistranslations, mistakes, but is still great to read if once you get past those errors.

(THERE WAS MORE TO THIS BUT THE REST WAS ABOUT LUCIFER AND HOW ISAIAH 14 WAS NOT ABOUT SATAN BUT ABOUT THE KING OF BABYLON)
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